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I'm BAAAAACCKKK!!! Super exhausted so it will just be a quick hi..yeh like anything I do here is quick! I just wanna quickly say congrats Jen (baby dust to ya!!!) And Su...tomorrow is the day!!!! How exciting!!!

I HAVE YET TO POAS!!! Was quite occupodo in CA...nope not affected by the wildfires. Weather was beautiful, returned to beautiful weather (75 degrees at 7pm in NH!!! CRAZY!) It was nice not being at work of course, but it wasn't quite the peaceful vacay I had hoped for! I have been having ankle problems (unexplained pain) but I have just been dealing with it and trying to strengthen it by using the treadmill. WELL, getting on the plane, the 1st leg of my trip (no pun intended) I am sliding into my row and POP!!! HOLY C&@P!!The worst pain in my life. I think I ruptured a tendon in my calf! I didn't get to CA in time to call my orthopedist who has been working on my ankle on Friday so I had to wait til Monday morn...1st avail apt is a week from today :cry: I had to use the cart to be wheeled from gate to gate, had to buy crutches when I landed...after hobbling to the luggage area then to the rental car busses, then out to the rental car! It slowed me down quite a bit. Didn't get to enjoy the wedding and reception because of the uneven grounds and no dancing! Then starting yesterday my body started feeling ooky...yup it has only been a week but keep in mind I haven't had long luteal phases, and I just hope it isn't AF symptoms. I hope it is nothing, but I'm worried...also worried about what if it is a BFP and I need an MRI????? Anyone have any sort of major treatment like MRI or surgery while pregnant? I know it is early to even worry bout that, but I still do.

I need to go, I'm wiped, not to mention it hurts to sit and hold the puter in my lap now! God I hope they have a cancellation before next week!!
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Ladies, ladies, ladies ------- sure did miss ya!!! Although, doesn’t appear to have been too much going on last couple of days :wink: …..guess we’re all waiting for SU’S BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Su ---- seriously………how you holdin up girl??????????? BFP……..BFP……BFP….. BFP………BFP…….BFP……….BFP……..BFP………so if we don’t hear from you today – you KNOW that we’ll all be dyin’ to hear from you tomorrow ----- so come he!! or high water ----- you let us know the MOMENT you hear something!! We NEED you to start a string of BFP’s for this string…….(no pressure of course!) 8)

Beckster ----- sure do miss reading you! Hoping all is well with you and dh…… and rest of family for that matter……..thinking of you girl :P

Steph/peq ---- can I just say that I am SOOOOOOOOOOO proud of you!!! (although – I have bets that you won’t make it thru the weekend…..don’t let me down! Ha, ha :D ) Sorry to hear about your ankle….AND your calf ---- what are you doing girl???? :roll:

Angel505 ---- I think that ALL clinics manipulate our bodies/cycles according to THEIR schedules……….so my opinion is that I’m sure they’ve done this before and most likely will do it again!! GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!

Jenb ---- our newest 2ww’er!!!!!!!!! IT IS YOUR TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :wink: Are you one of those POAS addicts (like steph!!!)????? Just wondering so that I know when to expect first round!! Ha, ha!! I’ll get my speech ready just in case (will need for steph anyway!!) take it easy as those lil buggers snuggle in!!! **** STICKY BABY DUST TO YOU ***

Jen1 ----- awwwwwwwww, I’m so sorry you had to DEAL w/ that nasty beeeeeaaatch :twisted: that wanted to smoke!!! I know --- RIGHT?????!!!!!! Well – not so much have to DEAL w/ her as to just be in her presence…………I know how much that sucks……..got a girl here at work that just had bb in july and I get to hear about all the “well bb checkups” and “how great she’s doing” and this gal looks FAB – back into shape already………B-I-T-C-H!!!!! I mean not like she knows what I’m going thru……but evenstill…….i think most people assume that I am “content” w/ my step children and that I have no interest in having any biological children of my own……..if they only knew!!! We’ll get thru this TOGETHER jen!!!! We’re all here for each other……….. “in sickness and in health…..in good times AND BAD!!” chin up……… ((((((HUGS))))))

Gill ----- WHERE R U????????????????????? miss ya girl………hoping you’re just bz w/ decorating!!!!

As for me………..well, not much to report……does anybody else get the boo-hoo’s monthly w/ AF’s arrival????? Don’t get me wrong – I’m not in the midst of a cycle or anything ----- but evenstill, that glimor of hope remains that my dh’s little swimmers made it to their destination!!!!! And then AF promptly arrives (*****)……. So I spend a bit of time feeling sorry for myself ----- AGAIN…….such a vicious cycle!!!!!!!!!! So that’s where I am TODAY….waking this morning and like clock-work, AF’s timely arrival!!! So then I’m just that much more anxious to get my next cycle started…….. and not that I’m wishing time away --- but I really wish January would hurry up and get here!!!!!!!

Gotta run……..to all those I missed --- sorry and hope all is well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(((((((((LOVE & HUGS TO ALL)))))))))))) :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by Angel505 »

Hello ladies,

ICSI girl - always good hearing from you. You make me laugh. Thanks for reassuring me though. I did check up on the internet and realised that it sounds ok to delay superovulation. Like I was told, the whole point of dereg is so that the doc can take the cycle in their hands (d'oh). I feel so stupid for panicking.

Beckster - we miss you. Hope things are well with you and DH is still not too stressed out about the whole internet thing.

Jend - how are you holding up. Women who conceive easily get on our nerves with their flippant attitudes at the best of times, I'm sure its worse when you have had a set back. DH and I often wonder why this had to happen to us when there are people out there with terrible lifestyles/ habits who have kids so easily. It really makes no sense. But please continue to be strong, and I'm sure you'll figure a way forward.

Carolyn
- haven't heard from you. You start your patches soon don't you? You'll soon be PUPO before you know it!!!

Pequele - sorry about the ankle. But you will soon get a BFP and that’s more of an excuse to put your feet up and relax.

Su - So excited for your test tomorrow. The 2ww seems to have gone fast (Ok, don't beat me up, haven't been through it before!!).

Jackie - you must be looking forward to the Dec cycle. I may join you on that if all things work out.

Wishful, Gill, Jayne, Nimble, hope you are all doing ok too.

Shantala and Lara, how are you and the little ones doing?

Well, an update from me. We have been talking to the doctors on e-mail/ phone. Although our first consultation is not till Nov, our case is pretty much clear cut (or so we think for now). I was told that we could go for the Nov/ Dec cycle. Fingers crossed we will take the decision by end of this week, and if so we can start organising ourselves for that. I had some more questions for you:

1) I was told that I will be on burselin inj. I hate needles. How easy is it to inject yourself? I'm just scared that I won't do it right and then the medication will have no effect on me. Also is there an alternative way of taking the drugs?

2) What is the approx cost of IVF drugs here. Do you pre order or just walk into any pharmacy?

3) How often do the scans take place?

4) After the procedure, how soon can you get back into the routine of things? I have this horrible picture that the embryo will not attach because I walked around too much. The doc said that usually you need 3 days of complete rest.

Any other advise is most welcome. You can PM me or post on this thread.

Lots of hugs,
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Post by squeezan »

Hi Girls :)
Thanks for all your good wishes. I just want tomorrow to come now but am nervous as hell. Nearly flipped out this morning when went to pee and had a teeny, weeny bit of spotting but had to hold it together cos I was at work. Been constant panty checking all day and nothing more.

Angel - believe me the 2ww never goes fast. :wink: I can't help with all of your questions as I'm doing iui but don't worry about the injections. The needles are so fine you hardly feel them. I was nervous doing the first one but after that it was no problem. My advise would be to get a private prescription and shop around for the drugs. To get menopur from the clinic they charge £250 per box, I got them from a local chemist for £168 and have been getting more quotes this week (just in case, I like to be prepared) and got it down to £159. The small, independant ones are generlly able to be more flexible on price.

Peq - welcome back. sorry about your leg, that must have put a dampener on the wedding. hope you can get it sorted soon. At least you'll have to take it easy for the rest of 2ww! :wink:

Being dragged to Lakeside tonight by my sister who wants to start her xmas shopping so must dash.
Will let you know how it goes tomorrow.
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su --- i GOTTA tell ya..........the tone of what you're TYPING sounds like you're handling this like SUCH A CHAMP :D :D :D :D :D :D :D i'm so impressed at your "well - off to do some shopping" attitude!!! LOVE IT!! :wink: i just know that's the sound of a confident PREGNANT woman talking right there!!!!! WOW --- i hope with all my heart that this is in fact YOUR TIME :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

angel: su's right ---- the needles are your FRIEND!!!! you will become up close and personal whether you like it or not...... you may as well make the best of it!!! :wink: seriously though ---- i too was DEATHLY afraid of the whole injection/needle thing (still am actually) -- but my wonderful dh actually administered ALL my injects.....(my HERO) for us - it worked.....and for us - i think it allowed dh to remain "involved" in the process.....and secretly - i think he actually ENJOYED the needle poking :twisted: :twisted: (kidding)
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Post by Jen1d »

Hi gang

Well struggle is the work of the moment :roll: Feel so sad and need a good shake but i will get there hopefully.

Angel - Will try and help
1. I got dh to inject as i'm a wimp and couldnt do it to myself. As long as the needle is held in for 10 seconds then all the medi will go in. If you dont like needles like me, then get to the chemist and buy Emla cream, it numbs the area------ok girls, i know, i'm a major wimp :roll: Dont know of another way to do it.
2. My clinic gave me the drugs, which was included in the whole price. The price for our drugs was £800 for the whole cycle.
3. It depends how the follicles grow and the lining thickens. You might have 2 but if they want to leave you for a couple of days to let them develop/thicken more then you may need 3 but all clinics are different.
4. The embryos implant between days 5-7 and everyone is different. My clinic say to rest for 24hrs then you can go back to normal, although no heavy duty stuff. I prefer to take the first week off work and chill. Go with your body and rest when possible.
Hope that helps, ask away if you need more help.

Want to say hi to everyone and i will write soon, just need to get up some more energy, feel so tired and fed up just now---ET seems years away.

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Angel, Will try to give you a bit of help, over a year since my fresh cycle, although i'm becoming an expert on FET's.
My down reg meds were a nasal spray, but they can also be injections. I used Gonal-F as my stimming drug, and my DH injected me every evening, the needles are very small and do not hurt. It made DH feel involved in the whole process, we also used a dosage pen so was idiot proof. I think our first scan was 8 days into the stims, and then i pretty much went every 2 days until i was ready, i was also told to just rest for 24 hours, and then go back to normal. However no heavy lifting, hoovering, etc. No baths or swimming (to do with infection).
I wish you well.

Su, good luck for tomorrow.

Hi to all you ladies. will post more later.
take care
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Post by squeezan »

BFN again :cry:
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Nov 07 menopur-BFP!!
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Post by CarolynB »

Oh Su

I am so very very sorry.

Big hugs. Be kind to yourself over the next few days. It does get a little easier as each day passes.

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Morning ladies

Su so sorry this is so unfair and crap hugs been sent to you .

Angel the price of the drugs seem to vary ours cost about £1000 ish last yr and wee were told that we could only get them from the hospital pharmarcy but you may be able to get them cheaper on line i found the injections no problem i done them all myslef and that was 3 or 4 injections a day you get used to it when you stop you actually miss doind it it wont be long till you start good luck

Peq sorry to here about your leg ankle hope it better soon and well done not peening on them sticks yet or have you and not told us :wink:

Icsi you are such an upbeat girl to have round here you always make us laugh

Becky how are things with you hope things arwe settleing down at home we miss you :cry: hope you managed to sort that cheeky website out .

Carolyn where are you hope that now you have finshed you pills time goes qucik for you when do you start the patches and hope your not working to hard .

Jen b welcome home sorry i late sayiny it hope your taking it easy and leeting dh do every thing for you now a lil word to those embies you must stick to mammy you will have a nice warm home for the next 9 months stick stick

Jen sorry you are still having a crap time i so wish you get a miracle right now you dont deserve this {{hugs}}

Shantala how are you doing hope the m/s is almost gone

Jackie glad you had a good holiday when you had not posted thought you had stayed there :wink: hope work is not to much for you dont forget you need time for you .

Jayne wont be long now till them embies are home and getting comfy for the next 9 months i bet you cant wait now .

Jackie hope your well it wont be long till you go again the time seems to be going so quick .

Hi to everyone i missed

Well nothing new here just been doing my christmas shopping which is almost finished now i thought i would get it done early has when its all rushing i dont want to get pushed about hopefully i will get to here my baby tomorrow at midwife appt and also i should have my doppler arrive today so i can listen to it whenever i want (i hope i dont offend any one going on about me if i do please say ) and i did get somw jeans yesterday but my mam had to cut off about 4 inches off
Will be around all day today has waiting for the gas to change my meter they say between 8 and 6pm its going to be a long boring day i need to shop lol
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Post by shantala »

hi ladies

squeezan - i'm so so sorry hun. please look after yourself and you know where we are if you need us! xxx

jen1d - oh hun....i so wish i could do something to help you and make you feel better. massive hugs!! xxx

JB - welcome back and glad everything went smoothly!!!! ooohhhh, hope this 2ww passes as quickly as it can for you!

pequele - not long until your BFP!! :wink: so sorry to hear about your ankle. what are you like?! lol...how is it now?? you poor thing!!

icsi girl - oh yes, i remember the upset moments when natural AF came. there is always that glimmer of hope, especially after all the miracles we read on here (right, rachel? :wink: :D ) so yes, it's completely normal to be like this. but you just have to try and stay positive that one day this will happen (i know its easier said than done). x

angel - as for your questions...every clinic is different but i'll tell you about my experience:

1) I was told that I will be on burselin inj. I hate needles. How easy is it to inject yourself? the first one is always the worst. i was scared stiff and threw a tantrum (literally) as i was holding the needle in my hand ready to inject. i was adement (spelling) that i wanted to do them myself as i was worried dh might not be around when i need the jab. once i got over that initial jabbing, i was more than fine!!! it's such a small needle that it's like a very small pinch!!! less hurt than a blood test! i also used the pen but had to draw up my meds with a proper injection for the trigger shot. but even thats fine. i promise!! I'm just scared that I won't do it right and then the medication will have no effect on me. its very difficult to get it wrong. i thought i once did my trigger wrong but retrospectively i know i didnt. its very hard to get it wrong. as long as you leave the needle in for about 5 seconds you'll be fine. and dont panic if a tiny bit spills out, thats normal too!! Also is there an alternative way of taking the drugs? i dont think so....my downreg drug was a nasal spray so you could ask if that is available. but as for the stimming drugs i think it has to be jabs i'm afraid!

2) What is the approx cost of IVF drugs here. Do you pre order or just walk into any pharmacy? depending on how many you need and what dose they are going to put you on. we were charged about £600 for each cycle's drugs but that was because i was on the lowest dose. they warned us that the drugs can cost anything btw £600 and £1000. as for where you purchase them...we were given a leaflet for a private company by the hospital and were told to use that. so we did, and they delivered the drugs within a couple of days.

3) How often do the scans take place? once i started stimms, i had a scan about 8 days later. with my first ivf thats the only scan i had and they triggered me a couple of days later so no more scans for me. for my second cycle though, i had the scan after the 8 days, then another one 2 days later (and then possibly another one the day after that but cant remember for definite).

4) After the procedure, how soon can you get back into the routine of things? I have this horrible picture that the embryo will not attach because I walked around too much. The doc said that usually you need 3 days of complete rest. every clinic is very different here and you may want to read the sticky thread on the general forum at the top "do's and dont's" as really every clinic varies. some suggest bedrest and others dont. my clinic did not suggest bedrest although i decided to take it easy the day of ET. apart from that i carried on pretty much as normal. with my first cycle i took the whole 2 weeks after ET off work and just pottered around the house. but with my second cycle i did everything as normal after ET (except for day of ET).

as for what you should and shouldnt do....with my first cycle i did everything that i could do make it work. i gave up alcohol, all caffeine, all crappy foods, etc for about 3 months before we started and during the cycle. i also did accupuncture and reflexology and generally did everything you are meant to do. for me, i needed to do this so that i couldnt blame myself for anything if it didnt work. and as the first one didnt work, i'm glad i did all those things as i would have looked to myself for blame otherwise.

however, for my second cycle i decided to limit things but not cut them out. i figured if i did everything by the book first time round and it doest work then why do it second time? i figured that, for example, by cuttng out caffeine completely i stressed myself unnecessarily as i just need that cup of coffee in the mornings to get me going. so for the second cycle i decided to have my cup of coffee in the morning but then none for the rest of the day. same with alcohol. after a hard week at work, all i sometimes wanted is a glass of wine on a friday night. so i decided to have that odd glass of wine (except in my 2ww). the way i see it is, if cutting out certain things actually adds to your stress, then dont do it. you can cut down but you dont have to give up.

anyway, i know its fairly controversial and people wont agree but that would be my main tip. do what you feel is best but try not to drive yourself mad. (althoug its easier said than done!)

carolyn - where are you honey?? i know your motto throughout your cycles is to keep as busy as poss but hope you're ok. miss ya! xx

rachel - oohh, good luck with your midwife app tomorrow. how exciting!! also, pls let me know how you get on with the doppler. as for m/s, it's slowly going although i still have nausea in the mornings. not bad though. good for you for starting xmas shopping. we've bought a couple of pressies but nothing else.

hi to everyone else!!!! becky, aunty, nimble, gill, etc!!!!

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Post by jen babes »

Hi all
thanks for all the welcome homes and good lucks...hoping and praying for this cycle too x x x

SU much love to ya hun...it's shit that you have to go through this all again. ((((((((( hugs )))))))))))

jen 1d hugs to ya too sweetie

jayne good luck hun your time is nigh!!!!

shantala welcome o your 2nd tri hun x x you are Bloomin now...(well you always were a bloomin nutter so you just lost the nutter part ) :lol: :lol: lol x x

Angel and icis hi to you ...hope you have all the answers now to your questions. x x

Pequel- hey hun hang in there you are nearly at the end x x x

much love to everyone else gill caro caro beckster nimble rachel etc sorry too many to remember x x x

sorry this is a quick post ...am actually feeling really sick with the pessaries has happened in my last 2 cycles too...so am resting as much as possible. Dh looking after me realy well and we are hoping to go a day away on sunday if i am feeling up to it...been reading and watching too many dvds but loving being lazy...PJ time x x x :lol:

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Su - I'm really feeling fo you - I got a BFN on Monday :( . It really forced me to contemplate a life without children and I have never experienced a sadness in such strength before - it completely overwhelmed me. I was in such a dark place at the weekend. I'm gradually coming to terms with theshock and disappointment and I'm really trying to focus on my personal strength that I've made it this far and that I can get through this. I feel pretty exhausted and I'm taking time out to rest and recuperate so that my body and mind will be in good shape to try it again.
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Post by ICSI GIRL »

SU:..............i'm so very sorry girl :cry: take all the time you need and just know that we're all here for you......WHEN YOU'RE READY.

jenb: LOVELY to hear dh is taking such good care of you :wink: and for the record --- i completely ENVY your "jammie time" right about now!!! Was a chilly morning here and i would have loved nothing more than to remain snuggled into my nice, warm, cozy bed!!!!!

shantala: such a great gal you are :wink: always there to answer my mindless (and neverending) questions!!! so when will we know what you're having????? (boy/girl) or do you guys not want to find out?? and what about names --- got names all picked out??? what fun!!!!!!! absolutely cannot WAIT for those moments!!! :D

rachel: absolutely cannot believe that you have your christmas shopping done!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU GO GIRL!! :wink: i HATE shopping (incidentally, my dh LOVES that about me!!) i'm ok w/ grocery shopping and actually ---- i really do love shopping for OTHERS --- but to just "go shopping for the day" --- NO THANK YOU!! I'd much rather sit my arse home w/ a cocktail!!! :wink: (well, guess not w/ a cocktail if i had bfp....but i don't - YET.....so i'll carry on w/ the cocktails!!)

jen1: i know you know this..........but w/ each passing day - you DO get stronger......and you DO get better (emotionally/mentally)...... and no matter where you are or what you're feeling ------ just know that we're all here for you...........UNITED WE STAND - GIRL POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! (for each other especially....in times of need :wink: )

hello to everybody else.........is going to be a busy day for me --- must dash off to see why my boss is ringing!!! ta-ta!!!

(beckster:..............still missing you :cry: )
:-) Angie
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Mornin Ladies!

Su- I am so sorry! Big hugs to you! It sucks, was it AF or a test? I'll probably get AF before I am even due to test! Then you and I can have some chocolate cake together ok!

Jen B- I'm sorry you are feeling under the weather...but it is all for a good cause of course! And don't we love the jammies!!! That is what I am enjoying about my vacay...of course being an invalid hasn't helped my cause either :)

Shantala- I am right there with your assesment on "neccessities of life" :) Of course I don't know if my philosophy has worked this cycle, but I haven't completely cutoff caffeine, I had a few sips of champagne at my friends wedding during the toast, but I am faithful about my viatmin....except did I take it today :roll: hmmm?

Rachel- let us know how your apt goes tomorrow. Will this be the first time seeing the bean (s)???? I am so jealous of your shopping!!! I haven't even THOUGHT of shopping yet! UGH!

Carolyn- where b u?

Becky- how are things going?

To everyone else....HHHIIIIIII <<<<Big waves>>>> pretend there are sparkllies here cuz I am just not that cool to actually put them here!!!

As for me, I sit here...mostly because that is all I CAN do while waiting for my stupid doc apt....I couldn't even get down the stairs this morn without going down on my bum! Have to go to the dentist today so I will need to take out the crutches....HATE em! Still trying to get out of work this weekend...if you only knew the company I work for, it is next to impossible! One good thing though...and I don't want to look into it, but I have had a couple bouts of queezy this morn...of course with my luck it is actually attributed to the PAIN and not a little bean hahaha. I think it is too early to have MS and that is why I bet it is the pain :)

Ok better get in the shower. It takes longer than normal now...grr.
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